Don't worry about us. We are just fine! Let's just say that buying very large amounts of bitcoin 8 years ago was a good decision.Literally no one cared. Especially not the Chapos. But now they are positively GIDDY!
Under capitalism, we are all grifters.(Your grifting is fine because you big tweet Trump bad! Meh...capitalism...amirite?)
You may be on to something.(Suddenly Krasshead has an idea... blame the scamming on CAPITALISM!)
I am not a socialist, but I respect your opinions, and I like some of your ideas.(Look you naive fucktards what he means in Krassspeak is, "We got twitter deplatformed and the money's running low. No one reads our site and our podcast has four suicidal listeners, so I am here to pander to you guys because the Chapo podcast is raking in big patreon bucks and we'd like in on that.")
Anyone making less than 10 million a year still ought to become a socialist. It's not like the transition to communism is instant. The labor aristocracy still benefits through labor focused policy.(I can't laugh hard enough.)
Dirty fucking liberals. Go sell more bitcoin(Before this there was a "post hog" so the Chapo we all know may finally have recovered from being starstruck...)
Other people on here may shit on you excessively, but I want to salute you and your brother for standing with Ilhan Omar when many other liberals joined in with right wingers to shit on her. We may see some things differently but you guys are some of the few liberals out there that I can have a lot of respect for because of that alone. Fight the good fight brothers.(Back to fawning because while other leftists were telling Ilhan not to hate on Jews so much, the Krassy bra-s were there to support her.)
Ed you and your brother should become maoists. I’m not even a maoist, just a concerned citizen, but it would be extremely funny if you became one. Just going around calling people revisionists and shit. Tryna launch a protracted people’s war against the racist villain Donald Trump from the swamps of Florida. Anyway, love your posts, keep it up, death to amerikkka, google Chairman Gonzalo.(My sides.)
People don’t defend us because they think we were cheating Twitter’s system buy purchasing engagement and accounts. I wouldn’t defend someone accused of that either.(BOOM! Got it in one. It's not like ANYONE expected Twitter to de-platform you guys. They de-platform conservatives left and right. If they did it to you... they must have had you nailed DEAD TO RIGHTS bot-farming and using other accounts to fuck stuff up. That's what twitter SAID that they had on you. It wasn't some, "violates community standards" hypocritical shit...)
That's true but I'm pretty concerned about the fact that like four companies determine who can speak online and who can't. What's the point of having a public guarantee of free speech if almost all speech now takes place in a private realm where that guarantee doesn't apply?(On this day in 2019 I agree with Prince Kropotkin...but does he REALLY know what he's saying?)
I know we roast you a lot, and will continue roasting you, but it is deeply worrying that anybody can get unpersoned by some faceless mid-level bureaucrat with no warning, recourse, or chance to defend yourself. Hell, we're on a one-way road to getting kicked off Reddit, as well.(Wow. The AWARENESS!)
It’s great how we went from relentlessly making fun of you guys to this sub being the only place to welcome you.(It's absolutely hilarious and shows how little consistency and ethics your group has...)
Hey Ed, do you have any advice on using fraudulent investment schemes to con rich idiots out of their money so we can fund a global proletarian revolution?(Okay, now THAT is funny!)
No advice.(But THAT is funnier!)
Please do a socialism with your Bitcoin money and pay my debts off so I can tweet in peace(The complete manifesto of the chapotard in one sentence.)
Will Sommer snitched on this postThat is to say that a Daily Beast writer tweeted that Ed was posting in the subreddit...
That's because I sent it to Will Sommer.(How? Krassys have DailyBeast writers emails? Or was some tweety tweeting done?)
Did you guys call your site HillReporter so that when people ask you for journalistic credentials it sounds like you're reporters at The Hill?(Gee, ya think?)
Hey guys, I'm a mod at chapotraphouse2, we're basically an off-shoot of this subreddit, but we're a bit more focused on theory. Regardless, we'd love to have you two join us!(ROFL...)
$100,000 and you have a deal.(He's not joking, you know.)
Are we forgetting the Krassensteins were literally con artists?(Yes. And it's hilarious!)
They were a fun joke but don't forget what kind of people they are. We shouldn't be welcoming them here as a fucking bit.(You aren't. It's not a bit. You are serious about it!)
What made you guys choose this sub to house your address?https://www.reddit.com/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/c238aj/boom_krassensteins_address_exclusively_for_the/eri0a1f/
This is the worst thing that has ever been stickied here.(I beg to differ!)
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Neo-reaction is a 21st century variant of fascism: a new ideology that values stability, order, efficiency and "good governance" above all, or claims to.For reasons that will be covered later, it will become clear that trying to lump Neo-reaction in with Fascism doesn't work.
Comprehensive list of the backbone of neo-reactionary values part 1, transhumanismI wouldn't say it's a backbone, but sure, that's ok.
part 2, form of governmentMostly correct. Eric Schmidt, Elon Musk or Peter Thiel are often given as an example of what a ruler should look like. Given the lack of any political organization beyond blogging, any proposal to actually make one of these a leader isn't serious. I cannot find any indication on the claim that Neo-reactionaries hope to become the aristocrats themselves.
part 3, the CathedralI would have listed this first. Doesn't go into enough detail to criticise anything here.
part 4, NationalismMisunderstands that Nationalism has to do with Nationality and not Continent of Birth. Misunderstands the conception of why Neoreaction considers (Insert group here) better. See Moldbug's comment on "IQism" here to see the lineage of Neoreaction's apparent preference for certain ethnicities. Like typical racists, Neoreactionaries believe that certain races are more intelligent than others. Unlike typical racists, Neoreactionaries do not believe that intelligence should determine how successful people are. Indeed, Moldbug even argues that our societies have simply replaced overt racism with a subtler racism via discrimination towards the less intelligent (which just so happens to correlate strongly with race according to moldbug). It is from this that Neoreaction's bizarre appearance of East Asian "nationalism" appears. Some Neoreactionaries, despite being of European descent, believe that East Asians are more intelligent.
Part 5, economicsThe authors lumping together of the disparate, unrelated Austrian and Chicago economics proves that they understand neither. Austrian and Chicago economics occasionally advocate the same policy (free trade). They disagree on far more. Most importantly, Austrian economists oppose Fiat Money while Chicago economists place extensive focus on governments issuing fiat currency and see it as perhaps the most valuable tool the government has available to it for management of the economy. They are not linked by methodology. Nor are they linked by History: Chicago Economics is a descendant of Keynesian economics.
Part 6, extreme misogynyVaries by specific author. To give one example, I see nothing from Moldbug that endorses rape. What little he says on the subject is actually via quotation criticizing liberalism as endorsing rape during wartime. Given this variation, I find it hard to place misogyny to the extent the author describes here as a backbone of Neoreaction. It may well be very strongly present, but "backbone" implies that Neoreaction would cease to be Neoreaction if you removed it.
Part 7, Warhammer 40,000A bunch of video-game related in-jokes do not a backbone of an ideology make.
Part 8, an obsession with CuckoldryTrump Supporters are not Neoreactionaries, but I'll get to that later.
the "academic pole, exemplified in LessWrongLessWrong is not an academic pole of Neoreaction so much as one of the rare places that will occasionally vaguely tolerate their presence, and hence were the first to critique their ideas. Surveys conducted internally by the community in 2014 put the presence of Neoreactionaries at a mere 1.9%.
and the blogs of the main theorists of the movementCorrect, though I wouldn't call it a movement due to the total lack of political campaigning or advocacy.
And the alt-right poleTime to win me some downvotes.
neo-reactionary ideas are quite common in Silicon ValleyWithout data here it's hard to say what the author means by quite common.
Transhumanism I define to be a collection of movements aimed at improving and enhancing humanity through technological means. Almost immediately, we see a precursor, and one which influenced the previous reactionary ideology of 20th century fascism: eugenics.This is the most damnable lie in the entire piece.
But let us not tar all transhumanism with eugenics, though it must carry it's historical burdenIt's not Transhumanists that need to carry it's burden. They weren't responsible for it's crimes. Those would be actual fascists and Fabians.
though the more homophobic and transphobic element are looking for biological bases for gay-ness and trans-ness to include them here.I'm sure those scientists researching the mechanisms behind Transgenderism and Homosexuality will be pleased to hear these crass, derogatory comments from the author.
GamergateThe proportion of Neoreactionaries in Gamergate is minuscule as to be non-existent. Indeed, there's not even enough Neoreactionaries to make up a significant part of Gamergate even if they were all involved in Gamergate.
Raymond piggybacked off of Stallman's concept of free software to create a version more appealing for corporations: open source.Unsupported motive assumption.
for here can be seen the origin of the neo-reactionary term "Cathedral" - it is in the title of Raymond's essay "The Cathedral and the Bazaar", though the meaning was somewhat different, referring in Raymond's essay to a centralized model of software development."Somewhat Different" is the understatement of a lifetime. Those meanings aren't related at all. It looks like the Author here just searched for someone using the term "Cathedral" in the 90s and chucked in the first mention of it as the source of the term.
The Bell CurveControversial? Yes. Flawed? Of course. But to blanket it as a "psuedo-scientific work" is to overstate the criticism here. It's heavily disputed, and to simply paint over that dispute with a "It's wrong" is inaccurate, especially without citation
Evolutionary PsychologyAgain, the author slanders a field of research they seem to not know anything about. The author should at least cite something here instead of taking "It's wrong" as a given.
The Economist is Libertarian
I can speak to this firsthand, as I know many people who do thisCare to cite any? No. Ok.
Dark age of comic books is a source of neo-reactionThis is so stupid as to be barely worth my effort.
The God Emperor of MankindIs a meme from a kitschy British Tabletop Wargame community. The Imperium of Man is very consistently shown as an inept, poorly managed chaotic mess of a government that can't even figure out what planets it still owns, hardly a model Neoreactionary system.
Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake and Half-LifeAnyone still taking this work seriously at this point should reconsider their presence on this subreddit. This is "Heavy Metal is actually Satanic" Tier moral panic.
South Park Republican is a precursor to Alt Right.Guess we are going to have to go further back historically than google trends. This should do. Came to prominence by 1992. South Park began in 1997.
Orion's Arm is NRx-er's Future VisionsHere the author completely mixes up Rationalists (Eliezer Yudkowsky onwards) and Neoreaction (which makes up a mere 2% of people present in the Rationalist community).
Irrelevant comparison of Pinochet and Patriot Act based on them sharing a date on a calenderIs totally irrelevant.
Bad Philosophy on Positivism, Karl Popper etcYou'd be better visiting /badphilosophy on this one
New Atheists were invented to justify IslamophobiaAnyone with even a cursory understanding of the background of New Atheism would know that their primary target has long been Evangelical Protestantism.
The science wars of the late 90s and Alan Sokal.Someone's bitter at catastrophically losing the science wars.
Bitcoin and Austrian EconomicsTrue hardcore Austrian Economists would be unfavourable towards bitcoin as it's still a fiat currency. However, I understand (as, hopefully, so does the author) why certain people who gravitate at the fringes of Austrian Economics but don't study it in-depth might like Bitcoin.
Author drops what they're doing to insult Libertarians as not respectableIf this is indeed the quality of work by those who backed the anti-Sokal side of the Science Wars, then no wonder they lost catastrophically.
Author drops what they're doing to insult Ludwig von Misessigh... get on with the fucking point.
Chicago School is tied too closely with the crisis.The dominant Economic school in 2007, and today, is "New Keynesian". Again, demonstrating that the Author here doesn't actually know what they are talking about regarding economics and is just using "Austrian" and "Chicago" as snarl words for "Bad thing".
Author drops what they're doing to shoehorn in the Koch Brothers somewhereGet on with the fucking point.
Sudden jump to Curtis Yarvin mid-paragraph on LessWrongNeedless to say, this betrays how weak the link between these subjects is.
though he [Mencius Moldbug] did not call himself, initially, "neo-reactionary": he preferred to call himself a "Formalist" or a "Neocameralist" (after his hero, Frederick the Great).Correct, but this isn't exactly worthy of congratulations.
Later in the speech, Srinivasan went through the whole gamut of neo-reactionary ideas: Bitcoin, corporate city-states, 3d-printed firearms, anti-democratic transhumanism.All of these ideas predate Neo-Reaction. Nor are these ideas limited to Neo-reaction. I These fucking mysterious magical time travelling fascists.
Neo-reaction grew immensely outside of it's Bay Area base in the wake of the financial crisisWe have no data on the number of supporters of Neo-reaction. However, we do have some data on how much people were searching for it online. The conclusion is...
Right-wing media blamed teachers and immigrants [for the financial crisis]No. It did not blame teachers for the financial crisis.
Liberal Claptrap NonsenseAgain betraying the distinctly unprofessional, unacademic nature of this work.
Lets wave around our hate boner for the IMFGreat, but can you get on with the fucking point again?
Origins of 4chanThe author probably should have mentioned that 4chan was effectively a split from SomethingAwful, something which I feel is essential for any description of 4chan's early history.
surrounding racism, misogyny, homophobia, and transphobia was the centrepiece of the culture.Go tell that they're homophobic. They will have a laugh.
and so the userbase quickly became limited to young white cis straight menGo tell that they're cis straight men. They will have a laugh.
Stormfront took over 4chan.This is indeed vaguely correct, but it underestimates just how underhanded this takeover was. It was not a natural migration. Stormfront had long made deliberate effort to infiltrate various communities (including 4chan) with it's ideas. The most obvious calling card for a Stormfront attempt to infiltrate something is the phrase "Anti-Racist is code for Anti-White".
Harassment tactics originated on USENETActually, these Harassment tactics originated on SomethingAwful, which is how 4chan ended up inheriting them.
women, people of colour, and LGBT people always had played games.Indeed, this shouldn't even need to be stated. A good example of a prominent early LGBT developer would be Danielle Bunten Berry.
Gamergaters are annoyed at games not about war or technologyNo. This is not the kind of game that Gamergaters got annoyed about. If they did get annoyed about any specific kind of game, it was Advocacy Games and the genre known as "Interactive Narrative Experiences" or something to that effect, or more colloquially called "Walking simulators".
Called for serious critique and then called against serious critiqueCritique of Critique is legitimate Critique.
Precedents of GamergateThey missed out Doritosgate.
Fish disappeared from the internet.The disappearance of Phil Fish is a bit more complicated than "Gamergate did it" and it mostly happened in 2013 after telling someone to kill themselves. Them mysterious magical time travelling fascist gamergaters!
LGBT people in gamergate don't exist and are all sockpuppets.You're currently reading a text written by a bisexual individual who is vaguely, slightly pro-gamergate. This author is alleging that I don't exist. Talk about bisexual erasure.
Soon, the neo-reactionaries noticed, and affiliated themselves with GamerGate:...Here we get a list of individuals that the Author believes are Neoreactionaries.
They began to pressure advertisers and Wikipedia, among others, and attempted to hijack the Hugo Awards through the Sad/Rabid Puppies campaignSad puppies doesn't come from Gamergate. This can be demonstrated simply by looking at the date of formation of the Sad Puppies voting campaign. It was formed in January 2013, while Gamergate begun in 2014. Those evil mysterious magical time travelling fascist goobergaters!
When his [moldbug's] past was brought up by concerned people of colourWhich incidentally gave Neoreaction the largest dose of adrenaline it has ever received and, unfortunately, staved off it's passage into obscurity and total irrelevance (instead of just being almost totally irrelevant).
"sometimes I think Mencius Moldbug is the greatest living political thinker".Strangely, not too far out there. His ideas may be absolutely abominable, but who else in the 21st century can claim to have almost single-handedly founded a new political ideology: Not many. "Great" should be taken as "Influential", not "Good".
The alt right converted Tay into a Nazi.Given the Black-box nature of Tay's programming and learning systems, it's not actually possible to verify any of this.
Schizoanalyst (or a Psychoanalyst)Given the author's prior criticism of Psuedoscience, it seems comical to bring up Psychoanalysis here.
In order to contain the alt-right, we must stop this.The first step to stopping the alt-right is good criticism of the alt-right. Same with Neo-reaction. Unfortunately, this isn't it.
Fascism can't be defeated by debateFascism was significantly removed from post-War Germany not because all the Nazis were dead, but because of the process of Denazification, which indeed used debate techniques such as emphisizing the moral responsibility that low-level Nazi supporters (such as your average voter) had for the crime. Stuff like this (warning corpses). Fascism wasn't defeated by rounding up everyone who ever supported Hitler and gunning them down (or beating the shit out of them). Indeed, to stoop to the level of political para-militarism to defeat fascism is to accept fascism itself, for political intimidation and "cleansing" of the opposition through para-militarism is essentially Fascism's defining feature.
Lets doxx all the Neoreactionaries.There's that "Fight paramilitarism with paramilitarism" tactic I just mentioned. Oh dear. How predictable.
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